Posts by Stan Conroy

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Is the USA a bully?

by Robdar in

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i was watching the news last night.

the latest word from the war front is that we should be able to peaceably work out our differences with north korea.

as humiliating as it will be for us to kiss north korea's ass, we will do so because they do have the ability to nuke our west coast.

From the viewpoint of a non-American, I would say that yes, the US does seem to be the world's bully. And a selfish one at that. Why does the US stick it's nose in some world affairs while ignoring the rest?

Kuwait 1991 = oil: get involved

Iraq 2003=oil: get involved

Cambodia 1975(ish)= proven no-win situation in Vietnam: don't get involved

numerous civil wars in Africa (perpetual)= nothing to gain: don't get involved

There are more examples, but you get the point. Now as far as history goes, the US has a tendancy to seek glory where it is not deserved. Look at WW2 and the liberation of Rome. The Canadian army did the work, then were ordered by the US to stand down while US troops rolled in and took the glory. But yes, the US was necessary to defeat Germany in 1945. In WW1 the Canadian army was a major factor in defeat of the Germans at Somme, Ypres, Vimy Ridge, Pashendale etc. but the US history portrays the American armies entrance to WW1 in 1917 as the factor in the defeat of Germany. The statistics prove this to be wrong.

I don't disagree that the US is a necessary evil as LB elludes to. But don't be so surprised that the rest of the world doesn't like you. Even your closest friend to the north tolerates you, maybe even needs you, but we don't really like you.

Stan

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Evolution vs. Creation (on Earth)

by StinkyPantz in

i didn't necessarily start this thread as a debate but moreso as kind of a survey.

i just wanna know what people think and a brief reason why.

i want to know how you think life originated on the earth.

Stan Conroy

Is it unreasonable to think that God started the evolution process? Why couldn't he have created the necessary conditions to cause it to happen. To me that makes sense. That way God is responsible for creation, and we don't have to ignore all the scientific evidence for evolution.

Stan

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Watchtower lies through their teeth.

by GeddyLee in

i just returned from some nice r@r in cancun mexico.

while i was their i had some time to go downtown to their municipal offices, and confront one of their officials face to face on whether the jehovahs witnesses were ever banned in their country.having read crisis of concsience , i have always been interested in finding out the truth of this matter for myself.

whether they were actually under a ban, or was it the watchtowers way of holding on to their real estate.

Stan Conroy

Hi Geddy,

I can honestly say that I don't remember that incident. Having said that, I definitely don't deny it either. So I'm confused. Now that I'm Stan, does that mean I was making out with my own granddaughter?

As for the Le Fever's, they should be here soon.

Stan

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How do I know the Bible is True?

by SwedishChef in

how do i know the bible is true?

by thomas schaff.

external evidence.

Stan Conroy

SwedishChef,

Using the word "obvious" is an ineffectual tool for making your point. Too many years of WT doublespeak for that trick to work on me.

As for the whole striped goat issue, you are saying that that was a miracle from God? To what end? So that Jacob could cheat Laban? (see verse 41&42) Is that what miracles are for? I see no evidence that this account is on par with the parting of the Read Sea or any of the other miraculous events of the Bible you mentioned.

As for the bat issue, you are talking about the Bible and science. It is illogical at this point to change your tune and say that that was the classification of animals at the time. If you want to use that logic, then are we to base all Bible vs science issues to the science of the day?

Stan

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Watchtower lies through their teeth.

by GeddyLee in

i just returned from some nice r@r in cancun mexico.

while i was their i had some time to go downtown to their municipal offices, and confront one of their officials face to face on whether the jehovahs witnesses were ever banned in their country.having read crisis of concsience , i have always been interested in finding out the truth of this matter for myself.

whether they were actually under a ban, or was it the watchtowers way of holding on to their real estate.

Stan Conroy

Hey Geddy,

Remember the first time you ever saw Crisis of Conscience?

Stan

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Did you follow instructions carefully?

by Outaservice in

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the society reports millions of hours spent in the field service yearly.

when you were active did you follow theocratic instructions carefully and faithfully?.

did you stop for a coffee break and keep your time going?

Stan Conroy

Hey Geddy, you forgot to mention your original idea of giving stacks of old magazines to bag ladies to increase your placements. I seem to remember driving around in the "shark" and doing that, as well as throwing mags out the window to people at bus stops.

Stan

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E-watchman site opinions.

by Monster in

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good morning everyone, (it's 4am here) .

i see the e-watchman site is advertised here, so have any of you read from it?

if so what's your opinions of it?.

Stan Conroy

It doesn't really matter to me who is behind that garbage. Any one that thinks the JW's have anything even remotely to do with truth is a complete idiot. They are a little band of pathetic losers who like to think way more of themselves than they should. The only reason we discuss them is because we had the misfortune of being part of it. I, for one, was born into it. Had I not been, I wouldn't know or care anything about this little cult.

Stan

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How do I know the Bible is True?

by SwedishChef in

how do i know the bible is true?

by thomas schaff.

external evidence.

Stan Conroy

How about this gem of Biblical science: Genesis 30:37-39

Jacob displays his knowledge of biology by having goats copulate while looking at streaked rods. The result is streaked baby goats.

or

Deuteronomy 14:11-18

To the biblical God, a bat is just an another unclean bird. But I seem to remember learning that a bat is a mammal when I was 5 years old!!

Stan

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Which Watchtower teachings lack logic?

by sleepy in

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which watchtower teachings lack logic?.

i know you're all tempted to say all of them, but some beliefs if the facts were true, would be logical.. which ones that are supposed to be a logical consequence of a true fact are in fact not logical whether the fact is true or not?.

for an example of logical belief based on untrue or unprovable fact , if god created adam and all humans came from him,(supposed fact) he could pass on defects in his genes to all humans and we could all be "imperfect".this we could call logical.. a watchtower belief that lacks logic is for example jw's who go through armageddon or die and are ressurected to earth are not perfect but still have another test to go through, yet those who die and that go to heaven are perfect straight away and require no further testing.. so which teachings are based on beliefs that are not true and which ones are just not logical?

Stan Conroy

If a good person commits a major sin the day before armageddon, he will die and be gone for good. But if a extremely wicked person dies the day before armageddon, he will be resurrected and get a second chance.

Stan

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Murder of child Hitler

by meadow77 in

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someone posed this question to me the other day, and i have to say it has really had me thinking.

we were discussing abortion, and they asked me if i would have killed hitler as a baby, knowing what he would do as an adult.

i believe murder is wrong, but do you think it is justified saving others lives?

Stan Conroy

It seems like this whole topic revolves around foreknowledge. If I had the foreknowledge to know that little baby boy Adolf was going to become what he became, than shouldn't I also have the foreknowledge to see what events in his life caused him to turn out that way. Then if that's true, wouldn't I be better manipulating events so that it never happened? That way he could have lived out his life as an obscure artist, and died an unknown.

And if all of that was possible, wouldn't I be the busiest person on earth making sure that no other situations like that ever happened again. But where would I draw the line if I decided killing a baby was the answer. Who am I to judge? Maybe George W. Bush should have been snuffed out as a baby. At this point, who knows where he is leading this world in his quest for war. Who knows how many innocent men women and children will die because of his agendas?

It's funny how things go. One stray bullet in the Great War, or a flinging piece of shrapnel could have prevented Hitler from ever surviving to become what he became. Maybe some better ballot counting practices in Florida would have saved 1000's of lives in the near future?

Stan